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For those of you (if there is indeed a 'those of you' to be addressed here) who friended me in more recent times one of the first fandoms I was actively involved with (along with HP) was Savage Garden.

I owe a lot to that fandom, which was smaller than some but popular enough that there were some marvelous writers (and the not-so-marvelous, not gonna lie, myself probably included). I still remember Callycat's heartbreaking angst fics (oh so many. I suspect, but cannot confirm, that it was from these fics I learnt what AIDs was apart from "a terrible disease they show on Comic Relief") I learnt a lot about sex, about romance and sexualities from those fics. Fics by LindaG, Stine, Lunaflower and of course Carolyn, whose astonishingly well-plotted fics came late to the fandom but taught me a lot about authorial spark (I can't remember what her tag was back then but she's Oh my Cee on twitter now).

The fandom lasted for a good while after the group's disbandment, but ultimately everyone began to disappear. I found LindaG somewhere else on the internet once, blogging about non-fandom things, and as I have said, Carolyn is on twitter periodically, but mostly everyone has disappeared.

I still worry about Callycat every time I think of them.

But I digress. There is a new album release out called 'Savage Garden-The Singles' - a collection of their old hits, including 'She' which was never released.

So the notification came up on my facebook page- as usual Savage Garden and Darren Hayes' pages both updated within seconds- it is always obvious that it is Darren Hayes and his team that maintain the page. Anyway so then Darren posts a link on twitter to an interview he did with Renowned for Sound about the release.

And on the webpage there is a link to An interview with Daniel (rarity of rarities) on the same.

And well, I don't want to influence your judgement but I thought that Daniel basically comes across as a HUGE DICK. I mean, there were hates in the fandom- it wasn't some sort of innocent haterless time just because fandom worked differently back then, there were people who bitched about Daniel for leaving the band and people who bitched about Darren for pushing Daniel into a limelight he was increasingly upset by but I luckily didn't get into shit like that. I thought it was somewhat evident from Darren and Daniel's comments at the time that Darren was hurt by Daniel leaving, that Daniel was disillusioned with the industry and of course the community of slashers interpreted this as a gay closeted Darren being broken up with by his now straight-identifying best friend. This is of course the fiction that, whether it had any basis in fact or not, is none of your or my business. But in fandom terms we felt it compelling, particularly as Daniel then got a girlfriend and Darren's musical output was incredibly angry and sad. This of course was many years before Darren came out as gay (he came out to his fans by announcing his civil partnership. Because he is awesome and beautiful).

But whatever was real and whatever was imagined by a fandom that was a sucker for heartbreak, Darren's comments have been for many years about "respecting Daniel's decision" and "moving on". They still do that in the interview above.

Daniel however?! That he doesn't like Darren's recent music (anything after Spin?!?) but had suggested they work together once or twice over the years and Darren has said no?!? Why would you say that in an interview? WHY? For fuck's sake Jonesy you sound like a bitch.

It's just my opinion of course and an argument can be had that Daniel, no longer in the habit of doing interviews, didn't mean to come across like that. ("I like more mainstream music" *headdesk* *cries*)



...But BY HEAVEN I wish I knew what the fandom people would be saying right now.


Heart attack, you stabbed me in the back. It's whack your mind is jack, how did anybody ever get like that?

I should kiss your dirty lips for bringing me my clarity. And now the truth has let me see, how your lies have buried me

And I felt your slipping fingers, and I saw you change your mind. If I hadn't dragged you in with me you would've let me dive without you

Every angel has dirty hands, even Judas planned to just carry on. Still picking up the pieces of those lies behind those sorrowful eyes you can walk away

Date: 2016-01-31 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tallulahgs
Yeaaaah... it doesn't come across as full-on backbiting but it does sound a little... well, how you said. Like "I still kind of resent him a bit but whatever, I don't EVEN CARE" which isn't very attractive.

Really old fandom stuff resurfacing is always kind of weird.

And yeah, I've lost touch with everyone from my first Internet fandom, which was small and friendly so we all knew each other. It's... weird.

Date: 2016-02-02 09:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tallulahgs
Yeah, it is a shame... but kind of the ebb and flow of online friendships, I'm beginning to think (well, I've certainly seen it).

I never knew much about SG though so it's interesting to see this and hear about it from a fandom perspective though!

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